Comments on: Tomcat v Weblogic http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/ Documentum Internals and Performance Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:58:50 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: dozyarmadillo http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-141 dozyarmadillo Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:11:57 +0000 http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-141 I realise that this is an old thread but it sounds like Tomcat is just dandy if you don't fancy forking out a heap of cash for app server licenses and clustering isn't an issue. I still find it incredible that Documentum will not support clustered Tomcat though. I mean, they've benefitted from using Open Source components in their stack (including Tomcat itself). Surely they could go the extra couple of yards to support clustered Tomcat. I realise that this is an old thread but it sounds like Tomcat is just dandy if you don’t fancy forking out a heap of cash for app server licenses and clustering isn’t an issue.

I still find it incredible that Documentum will not support clustered Tomcat though. I mean, they’ve benefitted from using Open Source components in their stack (including Tomcat itself). Surely they could go the extra couple of yards to support clustered Tomcat.

]]> By: johntkwon http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-113 johntkwon Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:25:18 +0000 http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-113 At previous gigs, with previous versions of Documentum, most of the time the client has been fearfully pinned by EMC into using an ancient version of Tomcat and an ancient version of Java, because "anything else is unsupported". Most can't get past the idea to the point where we can consider using Weblogic or any other JVM or even any other version of Java. One client went so far as to completely rewrite a J2EE application (that was working with no problems at all) because an EMC consultant told them the version of Java (1.5) was "unsupported". They took this to mean "completely incompatible", even though there were zero problems with the application. No, this doesn't accord with my experience, because of the idiots out there who have frightened most of my clients into not trying anything that EMC "won't support". Seriously, I hope they don't keep saying this with V6, because it's driving me mad. At previous gigs, with previous versions of Documentum, most of the time the client has been fearfully pinned by EMC into using an ancient version of Tomcat and an ancient version of Java, because “anything else is unsupported”. Most can’t get past the idea to the point where we can consider using Weblogic or any other JVM or even any other version of Java.

One client went so far as to completely rewrite a J2EE application (that was working with no problems at all) because an EMC consultant told them the version of Java (1.5) was “unsupported”. They took this to mean “completely incompatible”, even though there were zero problems with the application.

No, this doesn’t accord with my experience, because of the idiots out there who have frightened most of my clients into not trying anything that EMC “won’t support”.

Seriously, I hope they don’t keep saying this with V6, because it’s driving me mad.

]]> By: Sizing a D6 System « Word of Pie http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-109 Sizing a D6 System « Word of Pie Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:28:29 +0000 http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-109 [...] Content Server requires almost 3 times the amount of RAM.  This is due to the increased overhead of WebLogic versus Tomcat.  It isn’t an unreasonable amount.  It just means that you actually need to look at [...] [...] Content Server requires almost 3 times the amount of RAM.  This is due to the increased overhead of WebLogic versus Tomcat.  It isn’t an unreasonable amount.  It just means that you actually need to look at [...]

]]> By: Robin East http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-108 Robin East Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:46:39 +0000 http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-108 I'm interested to know if this accords with other people's experience. Are there examples where this general advice needs to be modified? I’m interested to know if this accords with other people’s experience. Are there examples where this general advice needs to be modified?

]]> By: ashishdt http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-107 ashishdt Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:18:59 +0000 http://robineast.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/tomcat-v-weblogic/#comment-107 Good point. Good point.

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